I appreciate your candor. I hope women who think about attending these events read this first. I've been to demo fet events with many rules and private play parties where anything goes and have had similar experiences, although I have no interest in the men. For me, the fundamental issue with group sex events--as with swinging, and even threesomes--is the lack of organic growth of attraction and desire. In my experience, it's anonymous sex, regardless of how you dress it up, and that's just not satisfying.